Why? for services to the Exmo Community.
Every Friday Timothy starts a thread: "The Obligatory Friday Thread: What are YOU drinking tonight?"
Whilst some people may dismiss these threads as being unimportant, I would argue that, on the contrary, they are amongst some of the most vital and important threads on the board.
Why? Please allow me to tell you:
Some ex-Mormons know nothing about alcohol. Which means they know nothing about safe drinking. People can read through the thread and see what other ex-Mormons are drinking. Or they can ask for advice and help on what drinks to choose. Sometimes people have posted for help on what drinks to buy for other people. One example was someone who needed to know the right wines to buy for a meal that he had invited his boss to. He got the advice he needed, so the meal went well.
The thread also provides a strong degree of social cohesion for we denizens of the Recovery From Mormonism website. What do I mean by this? No matter where you are, if you live with Mormons or if you don't, if you live by yourself in the heart of Modom, or if you are a lone exmo thousands of miles from Utah, you know that ever Friday ex-Mormons will be posting there about what they plan to drink (and in some cases, eat) on Friday evening and, during the evening itself, what they actually ARE eating and drinking!
So if you are part of a couple, or a single ex-Mormon, perhaps the sole exmo in your immediate family (that you know of!) whatever kind of exmo you are, you can know that you are raising a glass with your fellow exmos, no matter who they are or where they are.
As a result, I feel that it is apropriate to present Timothy with a very special Not a Mormon award. This will be done within the next several days. Please keep an eye out for further developments.
Saturday, July 31, 2010
Friday, July 02, 2010
Mormons and criticism
Many Mormons do not like to hear or read criticism of their church. They believe they have a God-given right to correct what they see as misinformation about the Mormon church.
If we are to believe Mormons there was never any blood oaths in the Mormon Temple ceremony, Joseph Smith only had one wife (and if he did have more than one wife, including women already married to other men and young, nubile girls under the age of 16, it did not matter as they were only ever 'spiritual' wives) and Mountain Meadows was only an attack by Indians on a wagon train of people passing through the territory. And in any case, it did not matter, as did you know that some of those people on that wagon train were actually part of the mob that martyred Joseph Smith?
And did you know that neither Joseph Smith or Brigham Young ever ordered a group of men called the Danites (which didn't exist, anyway) to murder people? And even if Joseph Smith and Brigham Young HAD ordered the non-existent group to murder people, it would not have mattered as they would almost certainly have deserved it, and blood atonement was never preached or practised.
When Mormons tell or pass on these lies, do they know they are lying? OR do they really believe what they are saying? I remember one former Mormon mentioning the blood oaths in the temple ceremony to someone who had gone through the temple at roughly the same time as them. They were shocked when the practising Mormon denied there had ever been blood oaths as part of the temple ceremony, and challenged the former Mormon asking them why they would make up such a story? It was, they reported, as if part of the memory of the practising Mormon had been surgically removed. Unless, of course, the Mormon was just a liar? Which tends to indicate that some Mormons do "Lie for the Lord."
If we are to believe Mormons there was never any blood oaths in the Mormon Temple ceremony, Joseph Smith only had one wife (and if he did have more than one wife, including women already married to other men and young, nubile girls under the age of 16, it did not matter as they were only ever 'spiritual' wives) and Mountain Meadows was only an attack by Indians on a wagon train of people passing through the territory. And in any case, it did not matter, as did you know that some of those people on that wagon train were actually part of the mob that martyred Joseph Smith?
And did you know that neither Joseph Smith or Brigham Young ever ordered a group of men called the Danites (which didn't exist, anyway) to murder people? And even if Joseph Smith and Brigham Young HAD ordered the non-existent group to murder people, it would not have mattered as they would almost certainly have deserved it, and blood atonement was never preached or practised.
When Mormons tell or pass on these lies, do they know they are lying? OR do they really believe what they are saying? I remember one former Mormon mentioning the blood oaths in the temple ceremony to someone who had gone through the temple at roughly the same time as them. They were shocked when the practising Mormon denied there had ever been blood oaths as part of the temple ceremony, and challenged the former Mormon asking them why they would make up such a story? It was, they reported, as if part of the memory of the practising Mormon had been surgically removed. Unless, of course, the Mormon was just a liar? Which tends to indicate that some Mormons do "Lie for the Lord."
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