How long will it be before some Mormon "does the work" for Whitney Houston?

How long will it be before some Mormon "does the work" for Whitney Houston?

Yes, indeed! How long will it be before some Mormon decides to "do the work" for Whitney Houston?

Of course, prior to 1978 no decent, Brigham Young fearing Mormon would have even dared to think about having to work done for a "Black" person.

In fact, an otherwise decent young Mormon who seemed to have amassed a collection of Mormon FPRs (this was in pre-Internet days) would regale people with how a white looking Mormon was declined a position in the LDS Church because one of the other priesthood holders was warned by the voice of God that he should not get the calling.

It turned out, she would tell everyone, that this was the right cause of action because when they went back over many years, they found out that this man had a single "Black" ancestor, so was not worthy of either being given the calling or even of holding the priesthood. Why? Because having even one drop of "Black" blood precluded him from full membership of the LDS church.

Oddly enough, I have not heard that FPR since 1978. And, in accordance with the habits of Mormonism, I doubt if she remembers telling that story, which she told gleefully at Seminary, Institute, Firesides, or in F&T meeting.

Anyone else hear that FPR? Any other FPRs that you would like to share?

Here's a Question! Was Whitney Houston's Voice wasted as a talent?

Obviously, her talent was wasted by the damned fools who introduced her to illegal drugs and the idiot enablers who help keep her addicted to various chemicals and drugs over the years, both legal and illegal.

But here's a more fundamental point: Was Whitney's voice and vocal talents wasted by the music she was asked to perform?

Should Whitney have been directed into the realms of classical music? Of opera instead of popera? Or of Gospel music?

What do you think? Please leave a comment.

How to counter Mormon Baptism for the Dead

To some people the Mormon doctrine of Baptism for the Dead is of no importance. They beleive that as it is a fake created by Joseph Smith, that it doesn't matter.

However, for some people it matters very much. They feel it is an insult to not only their dead ancestors but also to the family.

Others might wonder why the Mormon Church should benefit from the misdeeds of some of its own members.

For example, Mormons,some disguised as Indians, murdered an entirely innocent wagon train of settlers in Mountain Meadows. Should the Mormon Church profit from having their murder victims baptised for the dead?

And in Germany some Mormons sided with the Nazis and reported where Jewish families were hiding. They even reported on members of the German Resistance movement causing them to be taken away and executed. Once again, the questions remains, should the Mormon Church be allowed to profit from the misdeeds of some of its membership?

I think not.

How, therefore, can baptism for the dead be countered in a theological way? If you are an active member of a religious group you can approach your church elders or leaders and ask them to organise a special ceremony to de-baptise the victim of baptism for the dead, or necrodunking as some critics term this practice.

If you do not regularly attend a church you might like to take the following prayer and change it to suit your own particular faith's concept of God:-

"Lord, please hear my prayer. The Mormon Church has baptised for the dead members of my family, my clan or other people that I feel connected to by reason of tribe, culture or faith. Lord, I feel that this baptism for the dead is an insult to not only them, but also to myself and other members of my family, my clan and my culture.

"Therefore, Lord, I am asking you to please revoke the effects of this baptism for the dead and set it aside as being an unwarranted intrusion and an insult."

You can then finish the payer in the fashion appropriate to your faith.

If you are an atheist, you can alter this to remove any religious reference and instead make it into a prayer to the Universe.

If you like this idea, please forward this blog post to as many people as you feel would find comfort, release and peace from being able to enact this idea.

An appeal for funds for Notamormon

Good day. I have hesitated to make this request for some time, but, I have decided that the time has come when it has to be made.

The computer I use to run my Notamormon blog is now somewhat elderly in the terms of the ages of computers.

It is now over five years old and does require either changing for a newer model or at the very least it needs some new parts. a better cooling fan, for example.

However, Matt's day job is not paying what it should (I have not had a pay rise in six years, for one reason or another) and so upgrading or replacing my old HP Computer is not possible at present.

Which is where the loyal readers of Notamormon come in. Would you, please, be able to donate a modest sum of money to the Matt's Notamormon New Computer Appeal Fund?

I am not asking for a vast sum of money from everyone. If everyone who can could just make a modest donation of four or five Dollars, then that would be marvellous.

The donation button is on the upper right of the Notamormon blog. I am not asking for one large, generous donation, just a number of modest or small donations, please.

A website you might like to check out

http://www.monergism.com

They have a link to Notamormon on their site.

Thank you for that link. Most kind of you! God Bless you!

RFM needs donations

RFM needs donations, this is because the site is now so busy that it is starting to cost Eric a lot of money. And that's not fair.

www.rfm.org and look for the Paypal button so you can make your own donation.

At last! ExMormon sticker and notice designs are available here!

Several months ago I promised that some designs for ex-Mormon stickers and notices would be available.

Due to circumstances beyond my control this has not been possible to put into action until very recently.

But now, they are available! And here are the first designs. You can use them on websites or print them out for use on the door of your home if you are pestered by Mormons and/or other religious callers.

Please enjoy them!

Here's a UK newspaper's take on aspects of Mitt's campaign

"Mitt Romney's family baptised Ann Romney's atheist father into Mormon church a year AFTER his death"

"More questions are being raised about presidential candidate Mitt Romney's religion after it was revealed that he helped baptise his adamantly atheist father-in-law years after the man had died.

"Edward Roderick Davies was Ann Romney's father and died in 1992 after living as a staunch atheist all his life.

"Recently-discovered records show that, in keeping with their controversial tradition of posthumously baptising non-Mormons, a ceremony was held to invite Mr Davies into the Church of Latter Day Saints one year after he died."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093241/Mitt-Romneys-family-baptized-Ann-Romneys-atheist-father-Mormon-church-year-AFTER-death.html

Ouch.

Mormonism Promises much, gives so little

Mormonism promises so much and gives so little. Or so it seems to me.

The strange thing about Mormonism is that it seems to vary so much from one ward to another, from one branch to another and from one stake to another and one district to another.

In general in most churches everyone knows what the theology is and if you do not like the theology, well, in theory, you can attend a different church. If a Baptist becomes a Methodist, if a Methodist decides to join the Church of England, nobody seems to mind so much.

But if a Mormon decides he or she wants to become a Methodist -for example- on, dear! It's Mormon Church Court time!

Why? Is it the loss of tithing receipts from that member that bothers the Mormon church so much?

Update

There's been a very unusual winter here. We have had no snow at all here, where I live.

Hardly any frosts, either. The rose trees are still blooming with last year's roses, bulbs are coming up two months early.

Is it global warming or a natural variation? Who knows? Who can say?

The Met Office is predicting a bout of colder weather over the next several days and the next couple of weeks.

We shall see what happens.

Happy New Year, Everyone!

I know there has been some pretty nasty s**t going down for some people who read this blog.

I just hope everyone has a better 2012 than they could have hoped for!

Oh, dear! Some presents did not arrive, thanks to Yodel!

The Yodel delivery company has caused much angst and heartache by managing to not deliver many presents and food orders for Christmas!

This story tells you all about it and what you can do about it if it has impacted upon you:

http://thatschristmas.blogspot.com/2011/12/dont-yell-for-yodel.html

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from Notamormon!

Have a fantastic, Mormonism free Christmas, New Year and 2012, in so far as you can!

This will take you to a rather nice online Christmas greeting card

http://thatschristmas.blogspot.com/2011/12/merry-christmas-and-happy-new-year.html

Good bye for 2011. See you in 2012!

Hard to believe, but Christmas is nearly here, again!

Yes, Christmas is nearly here, again!

I have got most of the presents sorted out -need to buy some wrapping paper, however- and we will need some Vodka for our Lithuanian neighbour/friend, plus some cards and one or two other items.

Got to get the turkey and the vegetables, some beer and table wine, some Champagne and that's about it!

We have had a problem with some items being stolen before they could be delivered
http://thats-business.blogspot.com/2011/12/unknown-number-of-christmas-parcels.html

Too late to deal with that now, though.

But all sorts of fun is going on here!
http://thatschristmas.blogspot.com

and here!
http://thatsfoodanddrink.blogspot.com

Hope you all have a great Christmas and a good New Year!

Are Mormons Christians? Is Mormonism Christian?

Are Mormons Christian? The answer to that questions is in most cases, yes, they are.

But is Mormonism Christian? That is an entirely different matter.

When is a secret agent a secret agent?

This might not seem connected, but it is.

Not many years ago a case came to court that seemed like the worst kind of fictional plot for a pot-boiler of a novel.

A man approached a group of college friends and he wheedled his way into their confidences.

Eventually he was able to produce evidence that he was an officer in MI6 and that he was spying on a fellow student who was Irish and, he told them, a member of the Provisional IRA and in charge of a local IRA cell. He pointed out to some perceived inconsistencies in the Irish student's behaviour and he was able to convince them that what he told them was the truth.

The man even became the lover of one of the group and, I seem to recall, fathered a child by her.

He recruited them into MI6 as agents and had them undertake missions.

Eventually he told them that they had somehow had their covers blown and he made them flee for their lives.

They spent several years fleeing from place to place, taking up whatever lowly paid job they could, always fearful for their lives. He made them get money from their families whenever they could.

This carried on until, one day, the police arrested the MI6 agent. Who, of course, turned out not to have been an MI6 agent at all.

So although the people who he recruited had been convinced that they were MI6 agents, who even had documents prepared by the alleged MI6 agent to prove that they were MI6 agents, they were, in reality, not MI6 agents at all. They were, instead, victims of a wicked, calculated fraud by a man who was an amoral fantasist.

There is a very strong parallel with Mormonism, here.

Mormons have written, documentary evidence that they are Christians. They are members of record of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Their Elders have their written Lines of Authority.

But they are like the poor souls who were deluded into thinking that they were MI6 agents. All of the documentary evidence that shows they are members of the Christian Church are false papers based on a long-term fraud invented and perpetrated by a group of men, including Joseph Smith and Brigham Young.

Happy Thanks Giving and Good evening, followers!

I just thought I'd like to take this opportunity to wish all of my American readers/followers a Happy Thanks Giving.

I hope that all is going well and that you are all enjoying yourselves as much as you can.

Whinefest

I have a job. The department I work in is chronically understaffed. There should ideally be 3 or 4 people in it, but there's just me.

This means that arranging holidays is a nightmare and if I have a cold although I'd love to remain at home and coddle it I have to battle on and work.

Some of my colleagues have whined and say: "You shouldn't come to work with a cold! You should stay at home!"

My reply was: "You do realise that if I stayed at home, you would be in difficulties?"

"How?" was the truculent reply.

"Because if I do not come into work then you will not be able to do your jobs and you will lose your commission for the month!"

The worst offender actually becomes very offensive. Forgetting that she regularly brings colds into work!

Two new blogs added to the Notamormon exmo blog list

Notamormon would like to thank the latest two additions to the list of exmormon blogs.

You can find it at the link on the Link section to the right of the site, or here http://notamormon.blogspot.com/2006/04/ex-mormon-websites.html

"Well, what harm can Mormonism do?" Let me explain

If the last time you attended the Mormon Church was before the Three Hour Block Programme was introduced, I doubt you would recognise it as the same Mormon Church.

Regular ward or branch socials? Theatrical presentations and the like? Things of the past, mainly. Rummage or jumble sales, bring and buys? Banned by edict from Salt Lake City.

Remember Sunday School in the morning, with Sacrament meeting in the evening? All gone! All absorbed into the mad, frantic and spiritually sapping Three Hour Block Programme.

Why? Consolidation. All must be the same. You will be assimilated, Borg-style.

This happened because the Mormon Church is run by its civil service, by managers, not by the clergy. Because, of course, the Mormon Church has no clergy.

"Well, what harm can Mormonism do?" An interesting and fair question. Let me direct you to www.exmormon.org. Read the blogs there, read the posts, then read the heart-wrenching stories about how people struggled when they became aware that the Mormon Church was not what they thought it was. When they realised that it was part MLM, part Ponzi scheme and part corporate behemoth, without any real spirit, or soul or religion, when they realised that the name Jesus Christ over the door was a hollow mockery of Jesus Christ.

Read how families are split apart by the Mormon Church, how it sucks money, time, spirit, heart and even the last vestiges of hope from the membership, from the poor, from the downtrodden, from the needy. The very people that it should be helping, it is actually crushing and trampling underfoot.

Sometimes good people within the Mormon Church do good for others. But please do not be deluded! That is against the backdrop of the whole evil edifice that is Mormonism! The great building, the whited sepulchre built by Joseph Smith, a 19th century con artist that made Charles Ponzi seem like a no-account dilettante piker of a confidence man, when compared to Smith whose claim to fame is that his con is still operating over 180 years later!

Mormonism Disproved in less than 3 minutes! (Video presentation)